Defects in Audi's Start-Stop System Make it Dangerous
- Defects in Audi's start-stop system can delay acceleration response, disable power steering, and cause rollaways
- Multiple lawsuits have been filed over start-stop defects since 2017.
- Audi released a TSB advising dealerships to just tell customers to turn it off if they don't like how it works.
The benefits of start-stop systems are clear. The technology shuts off your engine and transmission when you don't need it to improve fuel efficiency and reduce emissions output. It's become very popular with automakers as they compete to squeeze every fraction of a mile out of a gallon of gas.
But while automakers might love, owners aren't so sure.
First off, it's a little disconcerting. If you've ever driven a car with a start-stop system you likely remember the first time you pull up to a red light and the engine shuts off. Some of the more aggressive systems will even shut the engine down before the car comes to a complete stop.
Then there's the valid concerns about wear and tear. A start-stop system can increase the number of times your engine is started on an average day to dozens or maybe even hundreds of times, depending on your commute. And that's when most engine wear occurs, particularly on the starter and transmission.
All this for what amounts to a marginal gain of 3% fuel efficiency.
Multiple Defects in Audi's Start-Stop Design ∞
Audi owners have more to worry about than the standard menu of start-stop concerns. There are multiple defects in Audi's implementation that make the cars dangerous to drive.
Delayed Acceleration Response ∞
The system is designed to restart the engine once the driver takes their foot off the brake pedal. The theory being that the engine and transmission will be ready by the time the driver's foot reaches the accelerator.
With Audi vehicles that isn't always the case and acceleration can suffer.
Not only will acceleration be delayed, but multiple owners say the acceleration isn't dependable even once the car gets rolling. Complaints about the transmission hesitating or lurching can be particularly dangerous in a busy intersection.
Power Steering and Brakes Shut Off When Needed ∞
The engine isn't the only thing that shuts down when the start-stop system activates. Depending on the situation, the transmission, power steering, and power brakes are also disengaged.
That's fine if the vehicle is completely stopped, but those systems should always be available if the car is moving.
Audi owners often complain that those systems shut off way too early, well before the vehicle has come to a stop. They're also slow to reactivate and aren't always available during the initial acceleration.
If you've ever tried steering a car without power steering you know that it's hardest when the car is moving slowly, so this is a major defect.
Rollaway Threat ∞
Audi's start-stop system also tends to be a little presumptuous.
For example, if the car comes to a stop and the system activates it won't re-activate if the driver takes off their seat belt. They assume you're parking and the engine is no longer needed, what they don't realize is you're just trying to pick up your kid's stuffed animal that they've somehow dropped for the 37th time.
Once the driver's seat belt is removed the engine won't restart. Not even if the driver puts their seat belt back on. The only way is to click the seat belt, put the transmission in park, and press the ignition button.
That can be a dangerous problem if the driver doesn't realize what happens and the vehicle starts to roll away once they release the brake. Not only will the engine not re-engage, but neither will the power braking or power steering systems.
Audi's owners manual says the engine will "automatically restart [when] the vehicle rolls, for example while on a slope.” But that's not what happens.
Audi's Technical Service Bulletin ∞
Despite all the complaints and ongoing litigation, Audi has only released a revised technical service bulletin about the problem. No warranty upgrades, customer service campaigns, or recalls.
In service bulletin #00 18 14 2045316/3, Audi has told its dealers tell customers that they may be mistaking normal operations as faulty systems.
The Start/Stop system is complex and the number of the conditions affecting it is high. In many cases concerns about the Start/Stop system may actually be normal operation or influenced by the actions of the driver or passenger.
Owners are also told to deactivate the system if it makes them uncomfortable. But that physically requires pushing a button each time the ignition is started.
Lawsuits Regarding This Problem
Lawsuits about this problem have already been filed in court. Many times these are class-action suits that look to cover a group of owners in a particular area. Click on the lawsuit for more information and to see if you're eligible to receive any potential settlements.
Dismissed Pitts, et al., v. Volkswagen Group of America, Inc., et al.
Dismissed
The case was dismissed when a judge ruled Audi's owner's manuals clearly say the Start-Stop system "may turn off the engine before the car comes to a complete stop."
Case Filed
The lawsuit wanted refunds for the purchase price of the vehicles for class members, plus compensation for overpaying and for loss of values.
Dusanjh v. Audi AG, et al.
Case Filed
The Audi Start-Stop system allegedly requires expensive repairs, car rentals, towing charges, time off work and other costs, while customers allegedly lose money as the vehicles lose their values.
Swinburne, et al., v. Audi of America, Inc., et al.
Case Filed
Class action lawsuit alleges the systems cause the engines to hesitate, lag and fail to immediately activate when drivers try to accelerate from full or rolling stops.
Anzhelya Makaryan, et. al., v. Volkswagen Group of America, Inc
2:2017cv05086Case Filed
An Audi timing chain lawsuit alleges Audi and Volkswagen vehicles have defects that cause the timing chains to suddenly fail without warning, causing the engines to fail.
Dismissed
The case was voluntarily dismissed in November 2017 after a motion to dismiss by Audi was filed earlier that same month.
Generations Where This Problem Has Been Reported
This problem has popped up in the following Audi generations.
Most years within a generation share the same parts and manufacturing process. You can also expect them to share the same problems. So while it may not be a problem in every year yet, it's worth looking out for.
3rd Generation A3
- Years
- 2013–2020
- Reliability
- 35th out of 39
- PainRank™
- 2.96
- Complaints
- 33
5th Generation A4
- Years
- 2016–2021
- Reliability
- 20th out of 39
- PainRank™
- 1.1
- Complaints
- 12
1st Generation A5
- Years
- 2008–2017
- Reliability
- 19th out of 39
- PainRank™
- 1.09
- Complaints
- 23
2nd Generation A5
- Years
- 2018–2021
- Reliability
- 7th out of 39
- PainRank™
- 0.13
- Complaints
- 1
5th Generation A6
- Years
- 2019–2021
- Reliability
- 14th out of 39
- PainRank™
- 0.58
- Complaints
- 2
2nd Generation A7
- Years
- 2018–2021
- Reliability
- 10th out of 39
- PainRank™
- 0.28
- Complaints
- 1
4th Generation A8
- Years
- 2019–2019
- Reliability
- 10th out of 39
- PainRank™
- N/A
- Complaints
- 0
2nd Generation Q5
- Years
- 2018–2020
- Reliability
- 24th out of 39
- PainRank™
- 1.31
- Complaints
- 7
2nd Generation Q7
- Years
- 2017–2021
- Reliability
- 23rd out of 39
- PainRank™
- 1.29
- Complaints
- 9
1st Generation Q8
- Years
- 2019–2020
- Reliability
- 16th out of 39
- PainRank™
- 0.79
- Complaints
- 2
3rd Generation S3
- Years
- 2015–2019
- Reliability
- 12th out of 39
- PainRank™
- 0.34
- Complaints
- 2
6th Generation S4
- Years
- 2018–2021
- Reliability
- 12th out of 39
- PainRank™
- N/A
- Complaints
- 0
4th Generation S6
- Years
- 2011–2018
- Reliability
- 6th out of 39
- PainRank™
- 0.1
- Complaints
- 1
5th Generation S6
- Years
- 2019–2021
- Reliability
- 6th out of 39
- PainRank™
- N/A
- Complaints
- 0
4th Generation S8
- Years
- 2019–2020
- Reliability
- 6th out of 39
- PainRank™
- N/A
- Complaints
- 0
2nd Generation SQ5
- Years
- 2017–2020
- Reliability
- 6th out of 39
- PainRank™
- N/A
- Complaints
- 0
3rd Generation TT
- Years
- 2015–2020
- Reliability
- 8th out of 39
- PainRank™
- 0.15
- Complaints
- 1
3rd Generation TTS
- Years
- 2015–2020
- Reliability
- 8th out of 39
- PainRank™
- N/A
- Complaints
- 0
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Another Audi start-stop lawsuit has been dismissed
after the judge ruled that the owner's manual clearly states the Start-Stop system
keep reading article "A Judge Just Ruled That Audi's Start-System Operates As Intended"may turn off the engine before the car comes to a complete stop.
Is that all it takes to win in court? Be prepared for your next owner's manual to say "cars might catch on fire due to thermodynamics" just to cover all the bases.…For the third time in three months Audi has been sued for failing to do something about their dangerous start-stop defects.
It's almost as if owners don't appreciate suddenly losing access to their power steering and brakes while slowing down or not knowing whether their vehicle will accelerate through a busy intersection.…
keep reading article "Canada Joins the Lawsuit Party Against Audi's Defective Start-Stop System"A Virginia based lawsuit says Audi's start-stop system suffers from defects that cause delayed acceleration or lurching that can put occupants in danger.
The plaintiffs say that Audi HQ and dealerships will just tell owners to deactivate the start-stop system if they don't like it, but the system starts up automatically each time the ignition is pressed and must be manually deactivated by pressing a separate burden. Something the case refers to as a
keep reading article "Another Audi Start-Stop Lawsuit Says the Technology Causes Dangerous Acceleration Delays"inconvenience and mandatory burden that is not disclosed to the Class Members ar the time of the sale.
…Start-stop technology shuts off the engine when the vehicle comes to a complete stop in order to save on fuel consumption and emissions.
That's a good thing. But it also disables the power steering and brakes way too early. And it is a little slow to re-engage those systems when the vehicle starts moving again. That's a really bad thing.…
keep reading article "Defects in Audi's Start-Stop Technology Make it Dangerous to Drive"The lead plaintiff in Anzhelya Makaryan, et. al., v. Volkswagen Group of America, Inc. says a design defect in Audi's start-stop system allows vehicles to rollaway.
The rollaways happen because the start-stop system won't deactivate if the driver takes off their seat belt for any reason while the vehicle is stopped.
To make matters worse if that the system won't work even if the driver re-buckled their seat belts.
keep reading article "Does Audi's Start-Stop Technology Allow Vehicles to Accidentally Roll Away?"